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3/25/2013 6:00:00 AM
Letter: The Kingman-L.A. connection

Who at the city has their head in the sand?

Stockton Hill has the highest accident area between Airway and Kino and when it rains you can float a boat down the road. So let's squeeze another business in, between IHOP and Golden Coral, making it a little more difficult to get emergency vehicles to the hospital.

Does anyone care what is going on in the city? It's looking more and more like Los Angeles.

Bob Sodaro

Kingman


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Posted: Friday, March 29, 2013
Article comment by:

Kingman like L.A. - Really? OMG To those of us who grew up in Kingman, yes the rush hour traffic is perceived as terrible. But really, you can drive from down town to north Kingman many different routes and usually in 15 minutes or less. It's called trip planning. If it's during the week and around lunch time, I try to stay away from certain parts of Stockton Hill Rd. There are other routes. You can't force two competing business to share or join their parking lots...sure, why not build a shopping center out in Yucca, no traffic, no congestion - so where will the customers come from - Kingman? No, the businesses build where the people are, not where they are not.

Everyone complains about the highway potholes and disrepair and then when attempts are made to fix them, folks complain about the congestion and delays....then some folks decide to get off the highway to avoid the mess and it just congests another area....I guess if Kingman is some much like L.A. why are the folks moving her to get away from L.A. Maybe if all the Californians moved to New Mexico.


Posted: Thursday, March 28, 2013
Article comment by: Exaggeration Or Delusional

Poor letter writer. Can you imagine seeing things through eyes that see Kingman as LA?

Posted: Wednesday, March 27, 2013
Article comment by: Logic Common Sense

Doing Research- seems to imply that LA traffic around the Staples Center is well managed. You can find 'well-managed' traffic most anywhere is selected areas. Traffic is well-managed at Airway and Andy too...so what? The point being made was the congestion on Stockton Hill between Beverly and Kino. It was a good point. Your snide remark about "...no Golden Corrals" in LA wasn't missed either. It reminds me of the reason I prefer when Californians stay in California.

Posted: Wednesday, March 27, 2013
Article comment by: Doing Research

Let's not forget that somewhere has to have the most accidents unless you have no accidents ever. 1 is more than 0, so wherever you have 1 accident, that's still the most accidents.

High traffic areas draw people, which causes accidents because there are more people.

....and when was the last time you were in LA? I don't recall seeing any Golden Corrals there recently. I do recall seeing them manage traffic sensibly around the Staples Center without issues. And rush-hour traffic was bad... but 5 lanes of the 110 freeway managed to flow without problems.

Just admit that Kingman needs a traffic engineer to look at stuff. People get paid to fix these things if they are real problems.


Posted: Wednesday, March 27, 2013
Article comment by: R .

Does anybody know what business is going in next to the IHOP?

Posted: Wednesday, March 27, 2013
Article comment by: tj denton

oh my god, you get to travel miles in a running vehicle to get to your destination, and traffic is holding you back a few minutes from getting your food thats brought to your window. paved roads, restaurants and gas stations all at your fingertips, and you are complaining!! the things spoiled americans whine about. oh and by the way, i drive that part of stockton hill at least 5 times a day, and it has NEVER taken me 15 minutes to pass that area.

Posted: Tuesday, March 26, 2013
Article comment by: Joe Schmo

@Desert Dweller:

The city DID try to get Smith's to allow a connection to Wal-Mart when Wal-Mart was built. Smith's wouldn't cooperate. The city cannot force one private property owner to provide access to another.


Posted: Tuesday, March 26, 2013
Article comment by: Jack A.Lope

the bottle neck last Saturday and Sunday ..... there were THREE NCAA tourneys going on at just about the same time. After the last game there was a mass exodus.

I drove from here to Flagstaff in a steady line of New Mexico and Colorado cars. Was going to take my aunt in Flag to lunc but every restaraunt was packed.


Posted: Tuesday, March 26, 2013
Article comment by: Kingman Lifer

Seriously!

Posted: Tuesday, March 26, 2013
Article comment by: desert dweller

It IS the Cities fault! How bright do you have to be to see that people coming out of Wallyworld that want to go to Smiths, have to go OUT ON STOCKTON HILL? No one has the smarts to think, hey, let's make access from wallyworld to smiths through the parking lot...just one example..how many places could this be done that would keep literally "thousands" of cars off Stockton Hill?

Posted: Tuesday, March 26, 2013
Article comment by: Origional Kingman Resident

@just a citizen

Sunday afternoon there was a backup on the 40 east of Kingman and the 40 eastbound was at a stand still through Kingman.
My guess was that many people were exiting the 40 at Beale and causing a tie up there which slowed down the 93 entering Kingman.


Posted: Tuesday, March 26, 2013
Article comment by: Wow Ok

@ Just A. Citizen

If you hadn't noticed, ADOT is very aware that the Beale St. and I-40 connection is a bottleneck. There have already been a couple public meetings about the upcoming project, but the process for a project that big takes time and money, and lots of it.
I am a little confused at the reference to multiple signals, do you mean the pair of signals at the interchange? They are timed together, there is just simply too much traffic trying to get from Vegas back to Phoenix for the intersection to handle.



Posted: Monday, March 25, 2013
Article comment by: Thai Mai Shu

@ Messed up Stockton Hill RD

If you use the light at Sycamore just hang a right turn behind Woody's and you can turn into McD's from the back with nobody in your way.

It isn't the city planners fault that traffic is the way it is. Just look at how people drive and that should explain most of the problem.


Posted: Monday, March 25, 2013
Article comment by: Barb Touchette

First off, as others have said, the land is privately owned and the city and county can't force a business to locate where they want it to as long as the land is zoned for the purpose they are planning to use it for.

Secondly, you are confusing the city and state jurisdictions- the city isn't in charge of enlarging a federal interstate, and it's bad now because they are working on it. Stockton Hill does get a lot of traffic, but it can't be compared to LA or any other big city.

Drivers need to be aware of their surroundings and leave room between themselves and other vehicles instead of tailgating- and pay attention to the car ahead of yours brake lights!


Posted: Monday, March 25, 2013
Article comment by: Barb Ward

Why can't they cultivate the land near the airport more? Why is everything stuck in the middle of Stockton Hill Rd? There are buildings standing vacant on Hualapai Mt. Rd. that could use more businesses.
But coming from L.A. I find it best to drive carefully from the Freeway to Northern.
Kingman is still a good place to live.


Posted: Monday, March 25, 2013
Article comment by: California Refugee

Funny, I was in kingman the last of last month preparing for my move over here. I was in Rush Hour Kingman Style for about 15-20 minutes. Granted it was not Stockton Hill Rd, but it was Andy Devine.
I reveled in that Rush 15 Minutes.

I am moving from Northern LA County and I love the town already. Had passed through several times and decided to come and play here.
And Yes I caught a bit of the rush hour on Stockton Hill Rd. the next morning, but if you think this is as bad as LA......Just go to LA and try to drive through on the freeways after 2:00 O'clock on a Friday afternoon, that Rush Hour takes 3 to 5 hours! BTDT n gots the scars.

Will be back in Kingman on Wednesday for yet another move preparation trip.


Posted: Monday, March 25, 2013
Article comment by: Just A. Citizen

Just thinking along those lines myself last Sunday. Coming into town from 93 North I was stuck in traffic from beyond the Port of Entry. No accident. No stalled semi. No reason for it at all except poor planning. Why would ADOT sink what I'm certain has been millions of dollars towards highway improvements between Las Vegas and Kingman only to ignore the bottleneck and multiple signals on Beale St? Not to mention all the gas stops in that half mile that contribute to the problem.
How many engineers had a hand in planning these 'improvements' without the ability to recognize the problem in advance?


Posted: Monday, March 25, 2013
Article comment by: Michael Jedzinek

Appearantly our "planners" intent was to have every business in town located on Stockton Hill Rd. without even thinking about the impact that would have on traffic. Kingman is not alone. This practice is common in both large and small cities.

Posted: Monday, March 25, 2013
Article comment by: Messed up Stockton Hill road

My biggest complaint on Stockton Hill road is when you drive south and in order to head to the McDonalds you are forced to make a left hand turn onto Airway, make a left behind Wallgreens, cut through the back part of the building and then cut through the parking lot of the new Chipoltes. However when they were working on the building and had the parking lot blocked off, you actually had to get back on Stockton Hill road for about 30 feet and turn into McDonalds.
Why can’t we just make a U-turn right there at Airway and Stockton Hill road instead of being FORCED to cut through the back of Wallgreens in order to get to McDonalds? Can someone at the city please explain this to me and maybe the city should change the traffic laws?


Posted: Monday, March 25, 2013
Article comment by: Jack A.Lope

the city has no REAL say in the matter.

as for accidents, people need to slow down and pay attention.

As for traffic, try eastern ave, harrison, andy devine etc or some other route.


Posted: Monday, March 25, 2013
Article comment by: Kingman Resident

Seriously?! You really think we're as bad as L.A.?
Wow, the 2 hr's. of traffic we have is something I'll gladly put up with since I once lived in the L.A. area.
And, it rains buckets here and the runoff quickly goes away. You're in the desert so get used to it.


Posted: Monday, March 25, 2013
Article comment by: J M

I completely agree with you Bob! Seriously the planners are definitely NOT thinking! I am thinking maybe the planners should consult with Bullhead City as they GREW A LOT and compensated for it. They have also done a great job with traffic there.Stockton Hill Road DOES NOT need another business, the road is too narrow and getting up and down that road we take our lives in our hands! How about start putting business' in Golden Valley? More on Bank? Oh yeah and fix the Bank River!!! And they better start realizing they may need another lane on I-40 through town, last week was a complete disaster!

Posted: Monday, March 25, 2013
Article comment by: Ricky Bobby

1st : The city does not own the property
2nd: Why would they not allow a business on a commercial road ?
3rd: That business will generate sales tax, payroll for contractors and jobs for people.

In lieu of putting more business on StocktonHill Rd we should all move to LA !!


Posted: Monday, March 25, 2013
Article comment by: Ricky Bobby

I suppose the " city " should just let all the vacant property sit and cultivate the tumble weeds annually ?
The city does not own any of that commercial land. Why would they not allow a business in a commercial zoned area where they can generate sales tax , contractors can generate payroll and people can find jobs ?


Posted: Monday, March 25, 2013
Article comment by: mike malysz

bob...anybody that plays in politics is just in it for personal gain. if you think i am wrong, look around this country


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